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		<title>By: Three Sisters Woes Continue</title>
		<link>http://littlehouseinthesuburbs.com/2009/06/first-blood.html/comment-page-1#comment-7667</link>
		<dc:creator>Three Sisters Woes Continue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Aug 2010 20:59:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] The plants themselves have grown well. The corn is tall and tasselling out. The beans are growing up the corn, and the pumpkins are taking over everything. BUT&#8211;as I have chronicled ad nauseum, squash bugs and borers have been the cause of constant futile measures and personal insult. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] The plants themselves have grown well. The corn is tall and tasselling out. The beans are growing up the corn, and the pumpkins are taking over everything. BUT&#8211;as I have chronicled ad nauseum, squash bugs and borers have been the cause of constant futile measures and personal insult. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: And the Squash Wore White</title>
		<link>http://littlehouseinthesuburbs.com/2009/06/first-blood.html/comment-page-1#comment-6970</link>
		<dc:creator>And the Squash Wore White</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 May 2010 12:43:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] going to grow squash this year.  I have chronicled my squash woes in previous posts, including here, wherein I sustained a [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] going to grow squash this year.  I have chronicled my squash woes in previous posts, including here, wherein I sustained a [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Clean-Handed Bug Murder</title>
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		<dc:creator>Clean-Handed Bug Murder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Aug 2009 14:41:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] confession time.  Unlike TL, I don&#8217;t touch bugs.  I have worked up to rolling those itty bitty sugar ants with my fingers and I did slap a fly [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] confession time.  Unlike TL, I don&#8217;t touch bugs.  I have worked up to rolling those itty bitty sugar ants with my fingers and I did slap a fly [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Harlequin Bug &#124; Little House in the Suburbs</title>
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		<dc:creator>Harlequin Bug &#124; Little House in the Suburbs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 06:53:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I am a little obsessive in the way I fuss over my garden lately, I run across new bugs all the time. This one is so [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Tomato Lady</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 05:41:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Awesome. I knew there was somebody out there who had conquered these menaces. I feel like I am now fully armed for the war. Love the tips. 
Oh, and I fully recall the wrath of a honking big writhing squash borer. The first time I dug one of those ugly things out I jumped a foot. Ug!
Thanks, Monkeyfister.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Awesome. I knew there was somebody out there who had conquered these menaces. I feel like I am now fully armed for the war. Love the tips.<br />
Oh, and I fully recall the wrath of a honking big writhing squash borer. The first time I dug one of those ugly things out I jumped a foot. Ug!<br />
Thanks, Monkeyfister.</p>
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		<title>By: Monkeyfister</title>
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		<dc:creator>Monkeyfister</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 02:37:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OK, TL--

I live in West Tennessee (don&#039;t hate me, I&#039;m transplanted here from Michigan).  Squash Bugs, and Squash Borers are a MAJOR problem down here.  I am committed to Organic Gardening, and pest removal via the least toxic and destructive methods. I went to my local Co-op, and talked to them about organic control of these pests. The organic gardening specialist took special interest in my plight, and recommended the following:

First, hand-pick the eggs off. Dormant Oil will kill the eggs, as well, but it is best to hand-pick as many as possible. Same with the bugs themselves. She recco&#039;d using a Q-Tip loded with Dormant Oil on the eggs FIRST to kill the few that might escape your picking. I suffocates them.

Second, if you have Squash Borer worms, very, very gently slice, with a razor blade or X-Acto knife, from the hole, up to where the worm is. Stab that worm, and get it the h*ll outta there.  Immediately cover the wound with dirt, and water prolifically. There is a 50% chance that you&#039;ll save the plant or stalk. LOTS of water.

Third, Full-Bore Organic Warfare. Get to your Co-op/Feed and Seed, and get some BT (Bacillus Thuringus), and CAREFULLY spray around the base of the plant, making sure to not get any on the blossoms.  Then follow-up with a full-foliar spray mixture of Neem Oil, Dormant Oil and Pyrethrins. Pyrethrins SOUNDS horrible, but it is no more dangerous as Neem, that is to say, it is just fine, and one can eat the Squash the very next day. It is derived from the Pyrethrum plant, and is harmless to humans. Been around for a long time. Be SURE to spray the undersides of the leaves, and all the way down to the crown/base of the plant, and around the soil. Neem, Pyretrins and Dormant Oil SHOULD take care of the bugs within three weeks of once-per-week sprayings. 

My neighbor, Tommy, is unemployed, and I helped him plant a garden to provide food and income. He can&#039;t afford to lose a single plant, and he got hit HARD with Squash Bugs AND Borers. These measures saved all but the first two infested plants within two weeks, with him constantly monkeying-over the plants for bugs and eggs. 

OK. Now that we covered the &quot;what to do when the bugs are there&quot; side of things, lets talk about Early Prevention... 

When you plant your Cuke/Squash/Melon seeds, put a teaspoon of tobacco ash in with every seed. Compounds in the ash are incorporated in the plant for life-long protection. Companion Plant with Icicle Radishes, which you NEVER pull. Plant those Radishes within two inches of the Cucurbit seed.  

One foot away, you&#039;ll plant Nasturtiums. As I SFG as well, I basically plant the Bush Squashes every other foot, with Nasturtiums between. 

The ONLY problem that I have had this year is with the infected Squash transplants from a friend. My Cucumbers are six feet tall, producing in miraculous quantities, and no bug near them (tobacco ash),  and the Zucchini and Yellow Crooknecks were interplanted with radishes and nasturtiums-- again, with tobacco ash, and no problems.

The Tobacco, Nasturtium and Radish info is from The wonderful, and sadly late, Louise Riotta&#039;s &quot;Carrots Love Tomatoes,&quot; the rest is straight from the Co-op organic gardening specialist.

I REALLY hope that one or all of these measures will work for you, and your readers. There is nothing worse than seeing a wonderfully healthy plant just die so suddenly.

To be honest, at my place, I&#039;ve only had to deal with three Borers who were already IN the transplants when I got them from a friend. I didn&#039;t notice. The operations that I did worked fine (haven&#039;t in the past).  Boy howdy, that damned worm comes out all pissed-off when you get up on it, just perfect to squish it with full prejudice!

Dormant Oil and Neem Oil seem to do great on their own, and I try to stay away from BT as much as possible, because it seems to have a killing effect on pollinators-- particularly Bees. The Pyrethrins just make sense, if you need to go full-out organic chem-warfare. Hit every base.

Depending on how many Squash plants you have, and your level of reliance on those plants for your survival, If you MUST save the plants to pay the rent/mortgage-- get out that BT, and spray CAREFULLY, as I&#039;ve indicated. if it&#039;s a hobby garden, the BT should really be a last resort.

Sevin doesn&#039;t really work, nor does &quot;Dursban&quot; as, as soon as the Borer hatches, it immediately digs into the plant, and ththose substances don&#039;t quite hit it. 

This has been really long but, I hope that it helps.

Happy gardening!

--mf</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK, TL&#8211;</p>
<p>I live in West Tennessee (don&#8217;t hate me, I&#8217;m transplanted here from Michigan).  Squash Bugs, and Squash Borers are a MAJOR problem down here.  I am committed to Organic Gardening, and pest removal via the least toxic and destructive methods. I went to my local Co-op, and talked to them about organic control of these pests. The organic gardening specialist took special interest in my plight, and recommended the following:</p>
<p>First, hand-pick the eggs off. Dormant Oil will kill the eggs, as well, but it is best to hand-pick as many as possible. Same with the bugs themselves. She recco&#8217;d using a Q-Tip loded with Dormant Oil on the eggs FIRST to kill the few that might escape your picking. I suffocates them.</p>
<p>Second, if you have Squash Borer worms, very, very gently slice, with a razor blade or X-Acto knife, from the hole, up to where the worm is. Stab that worm, and get it the h*ll outta there.  Immediately cover the wound with dirt, and water prolifically. There is a 50% chance that you&#8217;ll save the plant or stalk. LOTS of water.</p>
<p>Third, Full-Bore Organic Warfare. Get to your Co-op/Feed and Seed, and get some BT (Bacillus Thuringus), and CAREFULLY spray around the base of the plant, making sure to not get any on the blossoms.  Then follow-up with a full-foliar spray mixture of Neem Oil, Dormant Oil and Pyrethrins. Pyrethrins SOUNDS horrible, but it is no more dangerous as Neem, that is to say, it is just fine, and one can eat the Squash the very next day. It is derived from the Pyrethrum plant, and is harmless to humans. Been around for a long time. Be SURE to spray the undersides of the leaves, and all the way down to the crown/base of the plant, and around the soil. Neem, Pyretrins and Dormant Oil SHOULD take care of the bugs within three weeks of once-per-week sprayings. </p>
<p>My neighbor, Tommy, is unemployed, and I helped him plant a garden to provide food and income. He can&#8217;t afford to lose a single plant, and he got hit HARD with Squash Bugs AND Borers. These measures saved all but the first two infested plants within two weeks, with him constantly monkeying-over the plants for bugs and eggs. </p>
<p>OK. Now that we covered the &#8220;what to do when the bugs are there&#8221; side of things, lets talk about Early Prevention&#8230; </p>
<p>When you plant your Cuke/Squash/Melon seeds, put a teaspoon of tobacco ash in with every seed. Compounds in the ash are incorporated in the plant for life-long protection. Companion Plant with Icicle Radishes, which you NEVER pull. Plant those Radishes within two inches of the Cucurbit seed.  </p>
<p>One foot away, you&#8217;ll plant Nasturtiums. As I SFG as well, I basically plant the Bush Squashes every other foot, with Nasturtiums between. </p>
<p>The ONLY problem that I have had this year is with the infected Squash transplants from a friend. My Cucumbers are six feet tall, producing in miraculous quantities, and no bug near them (tobacco ash),  and the Zucchini and Yellow Crooknecks were interplanted with radishes and nasturtiums&#8211; again, with tobacco ash, and no problems.</p>
<p>The Tobacco, Nasturtium and Radish info is from The wonderful, and sadly late, Louise Riotta&#8217;s &#8220;Carrots Love Tomatoes,&#8221; the rest is straight from the Co-op organic gardening specialist.</p>
<p>I REALLY hope that one or all of these measures will work for you, and your readers. There is nothing worse than seeing a wonderfully healthy plant just die so suddenly.</p>
<p>To be honest, at my place, I&#8217;ve only had to deal with three Borers who were already IN the transplants when I got them from a friend. I didn&#8217;t notice. The operations that I did worked fine (haven&#8217;t in the past).  Boy howdy, that damned worm comes out all pissed-off when you get up on it, just perfect to squish it with full prejudice!</p>
<p>Dormant Oil and Neem Oil seem to do great on their own, and I try to stay away from BT as much as possible, because it seems to have a killing effect on pollinators&#8211; particularly Bees. The Pyrethrins just make sense, if you need to go full-out organic chem-warfare. Hit every base.</p>
<p>Depending on how many Squash plants you have, and your level of reliance on those plants for your survival, If you MUST save the plants to pay the rent/mortgage&#8211; get out that BT, and spray CAREFULLY, as I&#8217;ve indicated. if it&#8217;s a hobby garden, the BT should really be a last resort.</p>
<p>Sevin doesn&#8217;t really work, nor does &#8220;Dursban&#8221; as, as soon as the Borer hatches, it immediately digs into the plant, and ththose substances don&#8217;t quite hit it. </p>
<p>This has been really long but, I hope that it helps.</p>
<p>Happy gardening!</p>
<p>&#8211;mf</p>
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		<title>By: Tomato Lady</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tomato Lady</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 05:04:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi CLS--I will check with Ivory about the spots, I went the easy route and used store-bought insecticidal soap. I know some of the recipes say to avoid using it in the heat of the sun, but that might not be the problem.
If the local paper goes online I don&#039;t know what I&#039;ll do about weed blanket. 
Hope things are okay.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi CLS&#8211;I will check with Ivory about the spots, I went the easy route and used store-bought insecticidal soap. I know some of the recipes say to avoid using it in the heat of the sun, but that might not be the problem.<br />
If the local paper goes online I don&#8217;t know what I&#8217;ll do about weed blanket.<br />
Hope things are okay.</p>
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		<title>By: CLS</title>
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		<dc:creator>CLS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 20:29:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I tried the oil, dish liquid, andH2O,  for bugs, it made spots on my plants, but the news paper worked great for weed repelant. I&#039;m trying to learn to live on a tenth of what I&#039;m accustomed to and not by choice, need all the help I can get.
Thanks for your website  CLS</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I tried the oil, dish liquid, andH2O,  for bugs, it made spots on my plants, but the news paper worked great for weed repelant. I&#8217;m trying to learn to live on a tenth of what I&#8217;m accustomed to and not by choice, need all the help I can get.<br />
Thanks for your website  CLS</p>
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		<title>By: TL</title>
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		<dc:creator>TL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Jun 2009 06:21:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi, Lita, I feel your pain. Those squirrels should at least have the decency to eat the whole thing and ooh and ahh over them. I have blueberries with beak marks on them. Shameful.

P.S. Here&#039;s an idea that might be worth trying:
http://www.commercialappeal.com/news/2009/jul/10/produce-protection/
It might look strange, but if it works . . .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, Lita, I feel your pain. Those squirrels should at least have the decency to eat the whole thing and ooh and ahh over them. I have blueberries with beak marks on them. Shameful.</p>
<p>P.S. Here&#8217;s an idea that might be worth trying:<br />
<a href="http://www.commercialappeal.com/news/2009/jul/10/produce-protection/">http://www.commercialappeal.com/news/2009/jul/10/produce-protection/</a><br />
It might look strange, but if it works . . .</p>
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		<title>By: TL</title>
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		<dc:creator>TL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Jun 2009 06:16:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Check! I&#039;m adding it to the list! Thank you!</description>
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